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Camino problems

Talk in english about Honda Camino PA50 Hobbit mopeds

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Re: Camino problems

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stray wrote:Thanks ☺
So I just got time to change contact thingy and set it to 0.30mm and now there's a really good spark and I also got it to made better compression and sounded like it was somewhat close to start but still not quite yet. Next thing must be the carburetor cleaning to see if there's any junk inside ☺

Oh and a little annoying thing is that as I was pedaling like a firestorm was comming, one of the pedals broke off so now I need to change one of those :-(
hello stray

there is a little trick to see if he starts
i will explain

turn out the spark plug
do you have brake clean
or startpilote for cars ?
spray a little bit in the hole of the cilinderhead
turn the sparkplug back
an give it a tray

if it starts for a second you know for sure it's the carbu that needet to be cleaned

and as you say
i know something like pedaling with a moped and the pedal brakes it is anoying

good luck
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Re: Camino problems

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Thanks for the advice camino_expert!

Will try to spray it next time my wife allows it :lol:
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Re: Camino problems

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Hi again :-)
I finally got the time to clean the carburetor. However it still won't start :-( the spark plug gets wet and there is a spark. And it didn't work with the car starter spray :-/ any ideas what else I can try?
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hello stray

have you checked the gaskets ?

if one is bad you can have a starting problem

did you took a new spark plug ?

because sometimes others they spark a little bit but don't work

and can you check your driven side the oil seal ?

if it is out he wont start

and you have compression and perf carbu etc....

oil seal out troubles

check it out ,

can you set a photo here at the site too look at your engine ?

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Re: Camino problems

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So I tried again today. Felt like it was super close to a start but it didn't as soon as I stopped pedaling it died.

I'm not sure I know what you mean with oil seal problems? What I know I only has to mix oil with fuel?

Haven't tried new spark plug yet, going to buy a new one in the comming week.

I'm not sure how to add pictures here?

BTW I just started snowing in Denmark today :-)
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hello stray

what i mean with the oil seal

sometimes at older motors

the one at the mono vario side
that sometimes fly's out

to check remove mono of vario
than pul the clutch of

and so you can see if it is out

as it is oud he wont start
and all the rest is fine carbu ignition etc ...

we wil find the problem

to set a foto on the answer page you see below bijlagen
go on it and so you can set a photo one off many more

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You can attach a photo to you post but it can't be too big. So you might have the scale it down a bit.
Or you can use photosharing tools like www.postimage.org
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So I got it to start. Though it ran a bit unstable. Couldn't run without full throttle and if I release the throttle it dies. So far so good :-)

Couldn't hear or see any differences when I changed the air screw :-( I just tried to turn around the little membrane plate so it's more tight than before(friend said that that worked before with him)

Now I'm just waiting a bit to reassemble so I can think of anything else I can do. Also changed the gaskets/o-rings whatever they are called.


Heres a link for pictures I think it works :-)

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=F ... lder%2cjpg
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Re: Camino problems

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So it won't start now. Suddenly it just stopped. When I'm pedaling now it's like the gears not always make contact or something. It's not "hard" anymore to pedal. Just stopped working after I reassembled the carburetor :-/

But it still sound like there's compression or at least when the gears or whatever it is is making contact so the pedaling gets hard...


Bah getting really angry with this moped :-/
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Maybe the membrane is not correct?
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Re: Camino problems

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heloo stray
i see on the foto there is no air filter
if its a 40 p hour motor you need one inside

maybe it's stil the carburator thts dirty
under the silver screw is a jetmain ,to keep it on stationair
thats maybe stil dirty
you can try to clean it whitout pull it out
becaus it's perfect possible to get it out with a woodscrew
but if you never did that , a little risc you brake it
but you can clean it with a little piece of cable
max 0.4 mm its between 0.3 and 0.4 mm little hole
and try to get through
if you want to get it out
spary a little bit carbu clean in it
that makes it com bit easy to get out
than turn the woodscrew inside 4.5 x 40 messure
than put it sideways in a bankscrew
with the silver pipe inlet at front ,
hold the carbu
give a little hit with a normal hammer
and most of the time the little getmain is on the woodscrew
and so you can clean it

that is the most of the time the biggest problem for a camino that doesent stay on running

so i hope it's helpfull
goodluck

grtz marc ;)
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on the foto's you see what i mean
but turn the carbu in position that you can hit the pipe inlet

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and don't forget to clean all with a compressor every canal
good luck

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Re: Camino problems

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Hello again

I have tried everything you said and nothing helps :-\ I think I'll take a break and maybe just find another camino after my wife have given birth to my daughter. Because when she's out I'll probably won't have time to play mechanic for a while :-)

Thanks for all your help and if I ever have any new questions I sure will come back :-) enjoy the good weather everyone, at least in denmark it's nice :-D
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The weather is finally becoming nice here as well. Congratulations on the daughter soon.
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thank you stray

i we can help
ask any time

and also congratulations on the new coming birth
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