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Honda Camino 65cc kit

Talk in english about Honda Camino PA50 Hobbit mopeds

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I think that the rust will come back again. you will have to deal with it yet another product that stops rust.
my english is a bit rusty , so I now use a translator.
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Madmac wrote:Instead of stealing it from her, you should let her clean it :-D
Is this how you get the ladies in belgium? :)
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Deckertje wrote:I think that the rust will come back again. you will have to deal with it yet another product that stops rust.
my english is a bit rusty , so I now use a translator.

No problem, i do understand everything you write.

And yes you are correct on this. The rust will come back if you do not put on a sealer. I will do this later,
but as long as I keep my Camino in my garage it will stay fine. :)
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Still some glue on my paint as you can see:

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Here i used some rubbing from Scholl.

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And yes I need to give it som wax/and sealer due to rubbing away the protection
from last year:)

Its not perfect, but much better. :)
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I am looking for a rear brake plate for my camino. Please spread the rumor. I have not found any one on internet yet.
This is for the 5 spoke tire. :)
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Thanks, I have sent mail to him. Hopefully he talk english and want to ship to norway :)
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His name is Guy and English won 't be any problem !
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Sounds great. Waiting for reply.
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Desided to fix my brake plate I have two issues with it. First problem guess? No threads. hehe

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Bought this kit today.

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Drilled 8,3 mm hole. With the bit that came with this set.

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Then made new threads with this tap that came with the kit.

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Installed the new threads inside with the tool that came with the kit :)

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New threads :) Ahhh

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Did this also to the next hole :)

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Problem 1 solved. :)
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What is the other problem? the braking pads?
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Problem nr 2 this little thing makes my brake really bad.

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I do not know how this should look like new, but my Neighbor are going to weld on both sides where the arrows are.
So it will be little bit wider. And i will grind it more rectangular shaped. It is now round in everycorner and makes the
break really bad.

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Any supporting feedback on this would be great.
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So i recieved my 4 different springs today, darn I am exited :)

First of all her is the spesifications on the springs:

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I wanted to test the compression of these springs, against my stock/original spring.
So i made this spring stopper out of toilet paper cardboard. This tool will make it easy
for me to compress all springs at equal length. I know its un-professionale but its giving me
some compare factors.

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The height on tool is 27,5 mm and fits inside the pulley where the spring goes:
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First off was my stock spring.
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First spring was my spring with less compression:
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Second spring little more compression.
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Third spring more compression:
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Fourth spring heaviest one:
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Summary:

Stock spring: 27,4 kg
first spring: 25,0 kg
second spring: 26,3 kg
third spring: 34,3 kg 25,18 % increase in compression
fourth spring: 42,7 kg 55,84 % increase in compression

My conclusion from this is that I think I will go for spring nr 3 34,3 kg and see where i am at :)

3rd spring % increase = 25,18%
34.3 - 27.4 = 6.9
( 6.9 / 27.4 ) * 100 = 25.18 %

4th spring % incease = 55.84 %
42.7 - 27.4 = 15.3
( 15.3 / 27.4 ) * 100 = 55.84 %

Here is an example of some % numbers on a scooter spring:

Uprated BGM rear pulley spring
Please note this is for the MINARELLI engine only
Ideal for tuned engines, helps stop belt slip
45% stronger than standard
Also available as 20% and 90% stronger!
Taken from here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aprilia-SR-50-U ... 460e542562

I am pretty near 20% and 45%.

To be continued!!!
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I have been doing some research on ebay when it comes to rear springs.
Rear pulley springs comes in 4 different colors for scooters. White, blue,
yellow and red.

Please correct me if I am wrong here. But on all the springs i have looked at on ebay the color
means different types of compression on spring.

Red =90% stronger than stock
Yellow = 45 % stronger than stock
Blue = 8-15 % stronger than stock.
White = This one I never found any % compared to stock so I am not sure. Could be equal to stock. I do not know.

I have also been told that red spring is for extreme builds, something that i do not have. I still have my stock carburator.
Yellow i have been told you can use for mild builds, where bigger cylinder, performance exhaust and bigger jet, etc.
Blue i have not been told anything about, but I m guessing a milder build than yellow with and upgraded exhaust only or similar.

So in percentage on my build i should be aiming for yellow spring 45% +- stronger than stock. Please correct me if I am way out here.
So I have changed my mind here and aiming for using the strongest spring. Nr 4 in earlier post. This is by my testing 55% +- stronger than my stock.
This is ofcourse 10% stronger than my stock compared to yellow scooter spring. But my old spring has probably lost some compression strength over the years. So it could be spot on.

I have installed this inside my pulley and its looking good. The EU pulley now feels a tiny bit less compression strength than my US pulley with yellow spring installed.

I really looking forward to test this setup. I am not able to open the pulley by hand so i can not be 100% sure that it will open fully.
But i does look like it should not have any issues to open all the way.

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I look forward to the results . I think I will probably need it at a later stage . good luck in their testing.
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